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$600k in NYC vs $500k in Chicago suburbs

Am considering two otherwise similar in-house tax jobs. Hav...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
HP is a long commute and that house looks like shit. Bump up...
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  05/06/17
Chicago job is in the suburbs so HP would be fine commute-wi...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
JFC. anyway you can get a seriously nice place for under ...
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  05/06/17
would moving to chi-town put pain on her/your family? what ...
Eugene xo
  05/06/17
That's pretty much a push - social ties in NYC vs. being tir...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
Is Oak Park too dark now? Chicago is 180 compared to MFH
8+ inches and she's keeping the meme
  05/06/17
Its not Oak Park that's the problem, its that if your commut...
animeboi
  05/06/17
OP probably won't be commuting on foot
Metal Up Your Ass
  05/06/17
Op can u weigh in
who cares
  05/27/17
Aren't you in London? Can you describe salary and role at yo...
;;;..;....;......,,,
  05/06/17
Did that for a while then returned to MFH. Role is a VP one...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
Do you think you've topped out salarywise? I remember you sa...
;;;..;....;......,,,
  05/06/17
Another 5 years and I can be head of tax somewhere largeish ...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
Are these jobs mostly available in NYC and Chicago? Did you ...
;;;..;....;......,,,
  05/06/17
Every Fortune 500 company has at least a few good tax jobs (...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
if you're just going to burb out not sure why you'd choose c...
scholarshipalt0 (retired)
  05/06/17
Yes I could make $450k+ in Texas and that would be fine. Bu...
Ephebophile
  05/06/17
Hie to Chitcago
longwangpoontang
  05/17/17
lol NYC makes Chicago look like a TTT shithole
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  05/06/17
in that NYC is a FTT right
Madison Twatter
  05/06/17
Cot damn that's a lot for an inhouse gig in Chicago. U the n...
[______Sign Here_____]
  05/06/17
You could probably afford a bit more than a 400k house on a ...
Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster
  05/06/17
This seems like an easy choice, go with Chicago
Lionel Tiger
  05/06/17
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8+ inches and she's keeping the meme
  05/06/17
NYC is a 180 city while Chicago is about a 155 (violent loca...
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  05/06/17
JJC didn't you get NOWAGed out of both cities? This guy i...
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  05/06/17
Chicago if White. Stay out of Chicago if non-White.
Savage_Noble
  05/06/17
White folks should probably stay out of Chicago as well. Bet...
Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature
  05/17/17
I know you're trying to troll, but I agree. White people sho...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
this is a no brainer, take the chicago job. jfc how di...
GGGtp
  05/06/17
your after-tax, after-col income is MUCH higher with the chi...
exeunt
  05/06/17
Describe how satsisfied your wife is with her life as a sahm...
;;;..;....;......,,,
  05/06/17
I don't like the Chicago house you picked, but I'd probably ...
~~(>' ' )>
  05/06/17
highland park/Wilmette are filled with SAHMs. if your wife w...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,
  05/06/17
that's true of any middle upper-upper class mostly white bur...
scholarshipalt0 (retired)
  05/06/17
Not sure if this is completely true. There are definitely st...
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  05/06/17
*SAHMs clucking at worker bees*
~~(>' ' )>
  05/06/17
lol people on UrbanBaby get MAF about this. I think it's the...
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  05/06/17
Flame? Those are two of the Jewier towns on the North Shore....
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  05/06/17
not flame. but you are right, HP/Winnetka are filled with Je...
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  05/06/17
Is this JJC? WTF is SAHM culture? Can you explain why yo...
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  05/06/17
The Jew population outside of Highland Park is very very ove...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
There is definitely a pervasive "North Shore SAHM"...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
Shitcago >>>>> JY
Madison Twatter
  05/06/17
I ended up taking the NYC job for the following reasons: ...
Ephebophile
  05/17/17
Good luck bro but it was the wrong move.
Bill "Spike" Lee
  05/17/17
cr lol @ this bitchass
Stephen Bannon
  05/17/17
#3 raises an interesting point. good luck friend
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  05/17/17
Except #3 is completely wrong because Chicago is probably th...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
cr
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  05/18/17
You're utterly delusional if you think North Shore RE is eve...
animeboi
  05/17/17
Yeah, he's idiotic. As long as the big corporates stay in Ch...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
Ack, on number 3, no way NYC job requires less hours. I wou...
nutella
  05/17/17
You're clearly a smart guy and have made good choices in you...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
fatal flaw: your "son" plays "softball" ...
Judas Jones
  05/17/17
My son is 5, he plays "softball." Benefit #1231...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
So cr
Mance Rayder (retired)
  05/17/17
...Thomas Smith, your gardener...
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  05/27/17
1800000000000
boomerboat
  05/27/17
What you missed out on: Glencoe Beach, no traffic and ext...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
The "beauty of lake shore drive?" How about mentio...
Young Playa
  05/17/17
Well Sheridan Rd actually runs WELL past north of Glencoe. ...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
Shut your fucking mouth. You thought I didn't know where She...
Young Playa
  05/17/17
Lol having a bad day? I just gave you a bunch of reasons...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
(Waukegan homeowner)
animeboi
  05/17/17
Nah I'm in the 60022. I know about the "windy roads&quo...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
are there any asshole boomer doctor know it alls you have to...
Judas Jones
  05/17/17
There's a lot of asshole boomers in any car clubs bro. You j...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
eating shit for months to cop a RIDE in a KOOL KAR??? lol @ ...
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  05/20/17
You know I'm watching what you do, and it's sad. After your ...
Young Playa
  05/17/17
I'm typing on my iphone bro. Train of thought, on the train....
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
You really don't get it, even after I tried to help your bit...
Young Playa
  05/17/17
Yeah you have me confused. Either I'm stupid or you're just ...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
Nah not as you were. Shut the fuck up and get out my motherf...
Young Playa
  05/17/17
Lol at this guy. You replied to my OP and now you're telling...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
(guy from Zion arguing with guy from Waukegan about the Nort...
animeboi
  05/17/17
Are there any poasters who actually (currently) live in the ...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
I used to live in Evanston.
animeboi
  05/17/17
Why does Evanston have 3 Metra stops?
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
It has a higher population and is denser than the more north...
animeboi
  05/17/17
But don't a lot of Evanston residents take the CTA?
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
Metra is waaayy faster. The CTA takes forever unless you ar...
animeboi
  05/17/17
This makes me want to move to Chicago
boner_police
  05/18/17
i agree with everything except the part about groupon being ...
Darnell
  05/18/17
Korean Google link?
~~(>' ' )>
  05/27/17
wow, huge mistake by OP
Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature
  05/17/17
Chicago, but that house sucks
peterman
  05/17/17
I normally hate on Chicago, but went to the Cubs-Reds game l...
[______Sign Here_____]
  05/17/17
Dear OP: You have the option of providing two experiences...
DevryMastersCandidate
  05/17/17
What's going salary rate in Chicago for c/o 2009-2011 going ...
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  05/18/17
Tax bros have an actual skillset, not like Corp/M&A dron...
Judas Jones
  05/18/17
This. I know a dood who is VP of Tax and Treasury at a Fortu...
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  05/18/17
The consensus above seems to be that I'm retarded, so I'll o...
Ephebophile
  05/18/17
This makes it sound much better. I was under the impression...
nutella
  05/18/17
yes but now you have a ridiculous commute. you need to facto...
exeunt
  05/20/17
While the above is logically sound, ultimately I would rathe...
Ephebophile
  05/27/17
Adding an extra hour per day to commuting would crush me.
~~(>' ' )>
  05/27/17
LOL at you limiting yourself to the biggest cities in Americ...
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  05/27/17
I laughed my ass off at the "sup brady" fantasy it...
gucci bandanna
  07/27/17
LJL at you living in a shitty house like that at 400k. Just ...
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  07/27/17


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Date: May 6th, 2017 8:07 AM
Author: Ephebophile

Am considering two otherwise similar in-house tax jobs. Have never lived in the Midwest but am leaning toward taking less money in Chicago. Have a stay-at-home wife and two kids. Seems like I could get something like https://www.redfin.com/IL/Highland-Park/1746-Sunset-Rd-60035/home/17626734 with minimal commute and good schools vs. either enduring a 1-hour commute from Westchester and maybe saving some of the extra $100k or living in Brooklyn and spending all of it and then some. Am I missing anything?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243445)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 8:31 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


HP is a long commute and that house looks like shit. Bump up your price range and get a place in Evanston or Wilmette or something. Only worry with Evanston is some ghetto areas.

I would take the Chicago job no question unless you need to be around NY for family. So much cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243462)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 8:47 AM
Author: Ephebophile

Chicago job is in the suburbs so HP would be fine commute-wise. As for the house, I don't think it's too bad in comparison to the Brooklyn alternatives -

http://streeteasy.com/sale/1258827

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243475)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


JFC.

anyway you can get a seriously nice place for under a mil vs. a $1mm place somewhere like Scarsdale either not existing or being a total teardown worse than the HP place you posted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244725)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: Eugene xo

would moving to chi-town put pain on her/your family? what about friends in NY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243493)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: Ephebophile

That's pretty much a push - social ties in NYC vs. being tired of the NYC experience and ready for something different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243521)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:17 AM
Author: 8+ inches and she's keeping the meme (Dude)

Is Oak Park too dark now?

Chicago is 180 compared to MFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243523)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:36 AM
Author: animeboi

Its not Oak Park that's the problem, its that if your commute is in the Loop you need to cross the west side ghettos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243565)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

OP probably won't be commuting on foot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243883)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:21 AM
Author: who cares

Op can u weigh in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407858)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:39 AM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

Aren't you in London? Can you describe salary and role at your potential gig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243571)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:35 AM
Author: Ephebophile

Did that for a while then returned to MFH. Role is a VP one leading all international tax matters (planning, controversy, etc.). Base 300, bonus 100, equity grant 100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243749)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

Do you think you've topped out salarywise? I remember you saying you made about this much in London

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243827)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Ephebophile

Another 5 years and I can be head of tax somewhere largeish and make another 200-300k, but I don't see much upside before then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244366)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

Are these jobs mostly available in NYC and Chicago? Did you look in CA or other states?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244445)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: Ephebophile

Every Fortune 500 company has at least a few good tax jobs (head of tax and some combination of roles overseeing US/foreign tax planning, M&A support, audits/litigation etc.). The quality of job will also depend on the support the tax department has from the CFO and CEO and whether the company is growing or not, so at any given point maybe 1/3 of those departments are good places to be.

The challenge for an in-house tax lawyer is to pivot from individual contribution to managing a team and getting designated an executive internally (not unlike making partner in prof services). Once there, it's a very portable skill set, and I could live most anywhere there are large corporate headquarters. The pay doesn't vary nearly as much among companies as the cost of living does. So I could also cool my heels in NYC for a while and wait for a good job in some other location. NYC does have the big advantage that there are a million other companies there so when my kids get older I won't have to uproot them if a new CFO comes in who doesn't value tax. Chicago/Houston/SF have this attribute too, just to a slightly lesser extent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244626)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: scholarshipalt0 (retired) (longemail@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@gayporn.org)

if you're just going to burb out not sure why you'd choose chicago over houston or something though unless you really hate the heat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244693)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Ephebophile

Yes I could make $450k+ in Texas and that would be fine. But the oil industry isn't the best place to be and I don't see that changing for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244862)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:55 AM
Author: longwangpoontang

Hie to Chitcago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325960)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:44 AM
Author: .,.,..,,.:,,.,:.,:,...,:::,..:..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


lol NYC makes Chicago look like a TTT shithole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243581)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Madison Twatter (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)

in that NYC is a FTT right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33245131)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: [______Sign Here_____] (No Tea, No Shade)

Cot damn that's a lot for an inhouse gig in Chicago. U the new GC? What's the base and bonus split?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243582)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:47 AM
Author: Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster (Tax survivor)

You could probably afford a bit more than a 400k house on a 500k salary though I admire the frugality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243591)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:59 AM
Author: Lionel Tiger

This seems like an easy choice, go with Chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243638)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: 8+ inches and she's keeping the meme (Dude)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243654)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.


NYC is a 180 city while Chicago is about a 155 (violent locals in the city, colder more bitter winters than NYC most years, dullard midwestern whites) but suburbs suck everywhere so you might as well just pick the one that's easiest for your family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243684)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


JJC didn't you get NOWAGed out of both cities?

This guy is a family man, doubt he'll be going to gang infested ghetto areas.

NYC dumbs are aggro guidos, much worse than midwestern frat boys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243871)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Savage_Noble

Chicago if White. Stay out of Chicago if non-White.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243842)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:25 AM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature (Wilbur Mercer)

White folks should probably stay out of Chicago as well. Better to just evacuate Chicago, in fact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325800)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:49 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

I know you're trying to troll, but I agree. White people should stay out of downtown Chicago proper and move to the North Shore (if you can afford it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325924)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: GGGtp (la cam)

this is a no brainer, take the chicago job.

jfc how did you get so marketable? 500k for in house in chicago is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243855)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:07 PM
Author: exeunt

your after-tax, after-col income is MUCH higher with the chicago job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244382)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

Describe how satsisfied your wife is with her life as a sahm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244386)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

I don't like the Chicago house you picked, but I'd probably take the Chicago job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244432)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


highland park/Wilmette are filled with SAHMs. if your wife works too, she will hate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244666)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:07 PM
Author: scholarshipalt0 (retired) (longemail@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@gayporn.org)

that's true of any middle upper-upper class mostly white burb in a major metro anywhere, from southern marin to scarsdale to winnetka

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244703)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


Not sure if this is completely true. There are definitely striver towns with more working moms and traditional towns with more SAHMs.

Also very few families can afford to have a SAHM in nice areas of NYC/suburbs. You need to make $500k vs. maybe $250k in Chicago.

Still not like you'd find a total lack of working mothers in either area. Also why would it even matter? Can working moms not get along with SAHMs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244748)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

*SAHMs clucking at worker bees*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244997)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:10 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


lol people on UrbanBaby get MAF about this. I think it's the other way around, like a one-sided rivalry. moms who can't afford to stay home need to defend their life narrative by talking trash on SAHMs.

very funny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33245038)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


Flame? Those are two of the Jewier towns on the North Shore. Lots of shrews with nannies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244716)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:42 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


not flame. but you are right, HP/Winnetka are filled with Jews. I worked with someone from Chicago whose wife is a striver from DC. they moved to HP and she couldn't stand being there because of the SAHM culture and she forced him to move to DC for work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244871)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


Is this JJC? WTF is SAHM culture?

Can you explain why you'd even be exposed to any SAHM culture as a working woman? Aren't you working most of the time by definition? Do SAHMs do different activities on the weekend or something?

Also Winnetka isn't a Jew town. Winnetka and Kenilworth didn't even allow Jews until the 1960s. HP/Glencoe/Evanston/Wilmette are the big tribe zones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244953)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:52 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

The Jew population outside of Highland Park is very very overstated. They tend to be more around the N/S Glenbrook school districts for some reason.

Not even sure why you lumped Evanston into the equation since that's not true North Shore.

North Shore remains predominately WASP. Not a single Jew on my street. Some people say you can judge the "Jewishness" of a town by how many temples are there. What they fail to consider, is that many Jews from other areas come to the North Shore temples for a variety of reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325937)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:55 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

There is definitely a pervasive "North Shore SAHM" culture that is inescapable. I don't mind it, but I definitely hear people (mostly who don't live in the North Shore) complain about it.

It's basically those 30/40YR SAHMs in their Range Rovers, dyed blonde hair, coffee in the mornings, walk the dogs, take kids to school, go to spa, go to yoga, meet friends for lunch, gossip, gossip and then family time. Harmless and unlike the wretched shrews of New York City, aren't as obsessed with stupid shit like "shopping at Top Shop" or "champagne brunches". It's a lot more wholesome here, with a very big conservative undertone to everything. The typical dress of these SAHM appear to be non-descript tights, Nikes, a fleece zip-up of some kid or vest, some big black sunglasses, a nice (but not too gaudy) handbag and a respectable Rolex. Compare to the NY shrew, obsessing over Burkins and aligator leather. Fuck them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325959)



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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Madison Twatter (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)

Shitcago >>>>> JY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33245132)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 4:33 AM
Author: Ephebophile

I ended up taking the NYC job for the following reasons:

-after negotiation the income spread between jobs widened to $150k

-I'm concerned about depreciation in the Chicago RE market at the upper end: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-lost-more-millionaires-than-any-other-u-s-city-in-2015/

-NYC perspective on the pay offered is that it's a pittance for a GC house slave and that I can retain some dignity by working 9-5, whereas Chicago employer views it as Real Money for which a substantial contribution would be expected

-access to future jobs paying more is greater in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325424)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:40 AM
Author: Bill "Spike" Lee (High Constitutional Moment)

Good luck bro but it was the wrong move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325512)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:55 AM
Author: Stephen Bannon (Pederastrian)

cr

lol @ this bitchass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325530)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

#3 raises an interesting point. good luck friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325528)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:57 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Except #3 is completely wrong because Chicago is probably the laziest major city in the world. Part of the reason for this is that the industries in Chicago are highly successful blue chips that have been around for decades, like McDonalds. They are in no rush to expand or pursue aggressive acquisitions. Since the clientele are chill frat boys who care more about being chill frat boys, even IF you are some shitclit lawyler who wants to gun and push paper, guess what? Client went home at 5:00pm and will literally shoot you in the face if you try to reach him after, so it's pencils down.

You know when the Metra trains are the most packed? Between 4:30pm-5:30pm. The Metra station is damn near empty after 6:30pm.

People in MFH bitch about having to work weekends. People in Chicago bitch when they miss Happy Hour on Monday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325968)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 7:29 PM
Author: .,.,,::.,.,..:,:,..:;...:..,,:,.,.:...:.,,.;


cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33339257)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: animeboi

You're utterly delusional if you think North Shore RE is ever going to tank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325989)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:04 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Yeah, he's idiotic. As long as the big corporates stay in Chicago, all of those executives are going to stay in the North Shore.

The big-wigs at Groupon live in the North Shore, and once the "yuppies" living downtown settle down and get married, they're all going to want to move as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326017)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 10:48 AM
Author: nutella

Ack, on number 3, no way NYC job requires less hours. I would've gone Chicago all the way and I hate it there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326746)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 7:53 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

You're clearly a smart guy and have made good choices in your life to get to where you are at, but you screwed up big time this time around, bro.

Your biggest mistake was looking at Highland Park. At $500,000 annual salary, you could have easily afforded a house in the $800-1Million range in somewhere like Glencoe or Winnetka. For some reason, Highland Park gets a big bump on xoxo but it's clearly the worst of the North Shore suburbs (unless you include Northfield, but even parts of Northfield are great). Highland Park homes are generally smaller and uglier, it's right next to Ft. Sheriden which is really ghetto, the down-town area sucks.

This is the life that you missed out on:

1) Wake up at 7am in your beautiful, large pre-war house to the sound of birds and the clearest blue sky you can imagine. Have coffee and breakfast in your sunroom with your family.

2) Get in your Porsche and drive the 15-20 minutes to work by 8/8:30 (people start early in Chicago).

3) Chicago "corp" is EXTREMELY chill. I mean crazy chill. People are incredibly laid back and gunning is frowned upon. Gunning and working too hard will kill your reputation.

4) At or around 4pm, people start leaving the office. Yes, literally around 4pm.

5) Let's just pretend that you are one of the "gunners". So you work hard, you call it a day at 5:30, somedays at 4:30 because you want to catch your son's softball game. Yes, people do this ALL THE FUCKING TIME. ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME. IT IS PERFECTLY NORMAL AND EXPECTED THAT YOU ARE A FAMILY MAN FIRST. GET YOUR FUCKING ASS OUT OF THE OFFICE YOU FUCK, is probably what your boss would tell you, but he's already left the office at 5pm and there's literally NOBODY, not even the fucking janitor, left on your floor after 6pm. You could fire a machine gun on your floor at 7:00pm and there wouldn't be anybody who would hear you. Hell, they'd probably call the cops if you're at the office that late thinking you're a burgler or terrorist.

6) You get home and have dinner with your family at 6:30pm.

7) Either chill in your big house sipping hot choco by your working fireplace, maybe go for a jog in your absolutely beautiful neighborhood with gorgeous houses and scenic roads. Maybe you'll stroll down to one of the several public beaches and listen to the waves of Lake Michigan on a cool summer night and gaze at reflection of the Moon on the water. The air feels, tastes amazing.

8) Or maybe you'll go to one of over a dozen tennis courts within half a mile of you and hit some balls, or go play with your kids in your backyard.

9) On weekends, the North Shore is perfect. No traffic whatsoever, extremely safe, numerous places to have great coffee and brunch, multiple golf courses, easy access to boating if that's your thing, you have the Botanic Gardens, the Skokie Lagoons, just so much to do as a family without any of the BS or hassle. If you want to go see a show or the museum, the city is a 30 minute drive away.

10) Your kids attend by default New Trier, one of the top public school systems in the country. If you don't like the size, send them to the very good private Country Day School which is 5 miles away.

11) If your wife is a SAHM, she'll enjoy hanging out with all the other SAHMs. The downtown areas of Winnetka/Glencoe/Willmette/Kenilworth are filled with small, boutique shops with very little big corporate interference. Everyone knows the employees/owners of these shops and it's all big smiles and hellos. They know about your children, they know where you went to vacation, it's all extremely friendly.

12) Soooo many opportunities for an active lifestyle, as mentioned above. What I didn't mention is that on weekend mornings, there are more joggers and cyclists on the roads than cars. It feels less like living in a "suburb" as opposed to a beautiful nature preserve with gorgeous houses.

13) If you like hunting or other outdoor activities, extremely easy to do. Several of my friends were wealthy farmers or did MANLY THINGS like owned HVAC businesses or the like. These guys are all millionaires, all incredibly chill and relaxed and we would typically just watch sports, drive our cars, go snowmobiling, go boating, golf, BBQ with the families or shoot guns on the weekends. Did I mention, nobody ever checks their work phones on the weekends?

My favorite was when it rained. Lying in my California king-size bed listening and watching the rain in the spring without another sound or distraction in the world.

You fucked up. Get to the North Shore as soon as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325665)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:18 AM
Author: Judas Jones

fatal flaw: your "son" plays "softball" instead of baseball?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325772)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

My son is 5, he plays "softball."

Benefit #1231231 of living in Chicago: you get to avoid neurotic people like the above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325775)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:40 AM
Author: Mance Rayder (retired) (/s/ Mance Rayder)

So cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325880)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,;.,:,.,..:.,:..:.::,.


...Thomas Smith, your gardener...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407513)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:23 AM
Author: boomerboat

1800000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407868)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:13 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

What you missed out on:

Glencoe Beach, no traffic and extremely easy to get to/park.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5241273264_368146d6d7_b.jpg

Your kids would have loved it.

https://www.dealchecker.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Glencoe-Beach-Chicago.jpg

The Lake.

http://jwcdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/beach3.jpg

Whether you boat or not, just a nice place to go to relax. Did I mention numerous playgrounds/tennis courts within walking distance?

Architecturally significant houses.

https://www.google.co.kr/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjR_qeE8_bTAhUJVbwKHXrOCicQjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fssl.cdn-redfin.com%2Fphoto%2F68%2Fbigphoto%2F316%2F08172316_0.jpg&psig=AFQjCNE58lXzQAtZACPFG9l_go8ZEUsfNQ&ust=1495109423895955

Beautiful houses everywhere. No two houses look the same on any street. It makes for amazingly pleasant walks with your dog.

Beautiful downtown areas.

https://fuelfed.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/fuelfed-coffee-classics-people.jpg

Lots of events happening, great community and places to shop, eat, drink.

I'm not even getting into the beauty of Lake Shore Drive or the amazing architecture of Chicago.

https://img1.10bestmedia.com/Images/Photos/257006/p-CC-chicago-beachfront_54_990x660_201404252111.jpg

Or the historical significance of the city.

Or the amazing sports culture, if you're into that.

Or the amazing economy (very healthy economy based on Blue Chips like McDonalds, Boeing, and tech companies like Groupon, plus traditional industries like agriculture logistics).

Yeah, it gets cold in the winter, and if you for some idiotic reason decide to go to South Chicago or West Chicago, you'll encounter some dangerous neighborhoods, and yeah, it's flat as a preteen and there are no mountains for skiing, but otherwise it really is an amazing place to live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325750)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:58 AM
Author: Young Playa

The "beauty of lake shore drive?" How about mention Sheridan Rd which runs from Chicago to Glencoe and actually has beautiful winding roads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325980)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Well Sheridan Rd actually runs WELL past north of Glencoe.

The only reason I left out Sheridan Rd (I live about 1,000 ft from it) is because of the ridiculous speed limit (25mph). And if you live here, you know about the traffic police, they'll pull you over for going 5 over. Since I much prefer WALKING, or biking in my neighborhood (you see the same types of houses anyway), there's not much merit to me in driving down Sheridan. Also, the roads get very rugged (potholes) when you hit Evanston.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325996)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:04 AM
Author: Young Playa

Shut your fucking mouth. You thought I didn't know where Sheridan Rd ends? I was saying it runs through Glencoe. Don't argue semantics with me. And what the fuck do cops have to do with beautiful winding roads in Glencoe? What the fuck is your defect? You sound like one of those guys who has an excuse for everything and can never take responsibility for anything. That's what you sound like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326019)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:10 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Lol having a bad day?

I just gave you a bunch of reasons why I avoid Sheridan Rd. If I need to head south, I'll take Greenbay. 25mph REALLY sucks, and it REALLY sucks when a cop pulls you over for going 30mph. The houses along Sheridan are gorgeous (what you can see of them anyway, since the really nice ones are gated and covered by trees). It's also criminally dangerous to try cycling down Sheridan Rd (hence few people do this) because even though there is a bike path, it is always covered in debris or potholes) and the road itself is too narrow for cars to safely pass cyclists.

You sound like someone who doesn't live here...the "wonders" of Sheridan Rd doesn't really appeal to anyone who actually lives nearby and sees it everyday. But maybe I'm biased because I drive a Porsche and feel stupid driving around at 25mph.

Also, Sheridan only really "winds" for a very short stretch, maybe 1 mile between Glencoe and Highland Park and half a mile stretch on the border of Glencoe and Winnetka. The rest of it is straight and boring, especially once you get down to Willmette. Then it's just a series of stop lights, left and right turns, stop lights, straight, ugly houses, BAM you're in the ghetto of Evanston.

If you want "real beautiful roads", well there are a whole bunch North of the North Shore, windy roads in the forest that are MILES long with little to no traffic in either direction. Also, many of the streets OFF of Sheridan are much more beautiful, I can think of a couple in Winnetka and Lake Forest, that absolutely blow your mind.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326056)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: animeboi

(Waukegan homeowner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326116)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:17 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Nah I'm in the 60022. I know about the "windy roads" because I'm a member of the Chicago chapter Porsche club and also Fuelfed, so we go on weekend drives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326126)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:19 AM
Author: Judas Jones

are there any asshole boomer doctor know it alls you have to deal with in your club?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326137)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:22 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

There's a lot of asshole boomers in any car clubs bro. You just avoid them except when you want a ride in their car :)

I put up with them only for the benefits and useful information. This one boomer asshole owns a Porsche 918 and a 911R and I managed to cop a ride in both. Completely worth sucking his ass for a few months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326152)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: .,.,,::.,.,..:,:,..:;...:..,,:,.,.:...:.,,.;


eating shit for months to cop a RIDE in a KOOL KAR??? lol @ house millennials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33353121)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:20 AM
Author: Young Playa

You know I'm watching what you do, and it's sad. After your first post you went back and edited it 5 minutes later to add a bunch of stuff. Then you did it again with this post. I always said you know someone is unsure, not confident, or scared when they behave that way. You sound like a striver, which would explain how you write up these stupid posts.

You think I'm having a bad day, but here you are trying your hardest to argue some random point, and then going back repeatedly to edit. And you don't even know why your doing it or why. No one cares about a fucking lake shore drive or a fucking sheridan road. Act like a man. How about that? And btw you wanna talk about someone who doesn't live there, I grew up in the City, and not a nice part. You can either keep talking at this point or shut your mouth like I originally told you to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326146)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:22 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

I'm typing on my iphone bro. Train of thought, on the train.

I'm not digging at you, I'm just saying as someone who grew up here, what "I" as a resident of the "North Shore" view as the benefits of the "North Shore lifestyle." Maybe you can relate to that, maybe you can't, but you don't need to go around knocking other people's perspective just because they don't align with your views. I happen to think Sheridan Rd sucks, but the view of the Lake never ceases to blow my mind, no matter how often I see it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326156)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:28 AM
Author: Young Playa

You really don't get it, even after I tried to help your bitchass understand what just happened. And here comes the "bro" shit and the nice guy talk. Just stop. It's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326199)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:29 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Yeah you have me confused. Either I'm stupid or you're just bad at communicating. Either or, as you were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326210)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:33 AM
Author: Young Playa

Nah not as you were. Shut the fuck up and get out my motherfucking face you striver ass kisser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326240)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:35 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Lol at this guy. You replied to my OP and now you're telling me to get out of your face.

And yeah, my dad was a striver, I'm a striver, why do you care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326250)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:31 AM
Author: animeboi

(guy from Zion arguing with guy from Waukegan about the North Shore life)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326216)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:32 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Are there any poasters who actually (currently) live in the North Shore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326231)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:34 AM
Author: animeboi

I used to live in Evanston.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326245)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:36 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Why does Evanston have 3 Metra stops?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326257)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:39 AM
Author: animeboi

It has a higher population and is denser than the more northern towns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326280)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:55 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

But don't a lot of Evanston residents take the CTA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326382)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 10:00 AM
Author: animeboi

Metra is waaayy faster. The CTA takes forever unless you are taking the "Purple Express", but it only runs during rush hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326413)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: boner_police

This makes me want to move to Chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33336421)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:25 PM
Author: Darnell

i agree with everything except the part about groupon being a tech company. that place is a silly struggling coupon company. most of the interesting jobs in tech in chicago are in finance and trading (jump, citadel, drw, etc.) the area has great STEM academic institutions but for industry, things are more limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337916)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Korean Google link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407874)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:26 AM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature (Wilbur Mercer)

wow, huge mistake by OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325808)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:29 AM
Author: peterman

Chicago, but that house sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326204)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:31 AM
Author: [______Sign Here_____] (No Tea, No Shade)

I normally hate on Chicago, but went to the Cubs-Reds game last night, and cot damn this city is nice. You fucked up OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326217)



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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:47 AM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate

Dear OP:

You have the option of providing two experiences for your children:

OPTION 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yiBnPbixg

OPTION 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0EkHManWc

B-b-b-u-t I can send them to Stuyvesent/Bronx Science!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRUGLL4kCA

NYC Ping Pong Champions 2 years running!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_FgMyLYvCM

After you are done kicking yourself in the face, ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326337)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: ...,...,.,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,.,.,


What's going salary rate in Chicago for c/o 2009-2011 going in-house from biglaw corporate?

I've done some interviewing and got what seemed to me to be some absurdly low offers, but if this guy got offered 500k then maybe I'm just interviewing at the wrong places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337795)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: Judas Jones

Tax bros have an actual skillset, not like Corp/M&A drones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337809)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:12 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,


This. I know a dood who is VP of Tax and Treasury at a Fortune 100 in MFH and he said if his comp all-in ever got below $500k he'd killself. He has a BA from an overpriced mediocre private university and apparently was clearing $300k as a 27yo management consultant waaaaay back in the day. No MBA or advanced degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337834)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 5:03 PM
Author: Ephebophile

The consensus above seems to be that I'm retarded, so I'll offer some more detail on the decision:

After I established myself in each role, the Chicago job would likely average ~5 more hours per week than the NYC one. NYC in general has a far inferior work culture to Chicago, but there are pockets of smart but lazy people in NYC who manage to build alternatives. This difference is in part because the specific Chicago employer is much more acquisitive, with M&A leading to time pressure and longer hours.

I agree that the North Shore suburbs are nice, but NYC has great suburbs too and much of the above conflates the regional choice with an urban vs suburban one. For example, let's say I live in Glen Ridge ( http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/realestate/glen-ridge-nj-neighborly-and-close-to-midtown.html ). My commute would be longer, but I can shift some work to the train and if I spend an extra 30 minutes each way commuting NYC has broken even vs Chicago in terms of total work time.

Cost of living in the suburbs doesn't seem that different. Let's say I up my budget to around $800k and live somewhere like https://www.redfin.com/IL/Glencoe/770-Vernon-Ave-60022/home/13791740. 2200 square feet, $18k in taxes, beautiful old architecture, walkscore of 73. Or I can live in https://www.redfin.com/NJ/Glen-Ridge/3-Appleton-Pl-07028/home/36165106. $30k more expensive, 2200 square feet, $22k in taxes, beautiful old architecture, walkscore of 67.

But that ignores different real estate price trajectories: according to Zillow, Glencoe prices dropped 1.3% in value last year, and Glen Ridge prices increased by 5.3%. So that's a 6% spread in outcomes. On $800k of principal, if that were to continue it would be $48k of additional annual income living in NJ, and would be tax-free so equivalent to $80k of pre-tax income. A 6% spread may not continue, but even half that would be pretty meaningful.

So at the end of the day I'll be saving $6k more per month in the NYC burbs from the extra $150k comp (extra $75k after taxes), making a better real estate investment, and I'll have access to the larger NYC employment market for future opportunities. Yes being next to the beach would be nice in those few warm months, but for now I'll survive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33338252)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 6:08 PM
Author: nutella

This makes it sound much better. I was under the impression that you'd live in the city and pay NYC taxes and NYC prices for schools and real estate. jersey is not a fun commute but I have no idea how it compares to shitcago. I was skeptical about the hours difference in the jobs but it sounds like you know the companies themselves well enough to know what the hours are really like. Best of luck and congrats. You're in the top 99.9% of in house land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33338765)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: exeunt (0x823fe3353982b7d869345c00f1f6f814d9825ce9)

yes but now you have a ridiculous commute. you need to factor that as a very real cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33353140)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 8:13 AM
Author: Ephebophile

While the above is logically sound, ultimately I would rather just live in an urban environment. So I am going to do something like

http://streeteasy.com/rental/2077881 or

http://streeteasy.com/rental/2056738 and re-evaluate at middle school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407505)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Adding an extra hour per day to commuting would crush me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407758)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: .,.,,..,.,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,


LOL at you limiting yourself to the biggest cities in America in which youd have to live like a poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407842)



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Date: July 27th, 2017 10:10 PM
Author: gucci bandanna (rap parody)

I laughed my ass off at the "sup brady" fantasy itt. (Even if every word were the literal truth, that would make it no less a fantasy.) JJC, this is how it's done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33870648)



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Date: July 27th, 2017 10:32 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,..,.,:,,:,,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,,


LJL at you living in a shitty house like that at 400k. Just be a mailable in flyover if you'd live like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33870805)