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lets just pull out of NATO. UK, France & Germany are our enemies now

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Funny how I thought this would be a rare thread where OP was...
As Done As Donny
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no but I did caution trumpmos on upcoming elections this mor...
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GOP is going to get historically crushed in this election, T...
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cr, and form a new body with E Euro hero states.
Maori woman performing defiant haka
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the goal should be the disintegration of the EU and then we ...
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decent man
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in the meantime, as a taxpayer i wouldn't mind if the US car...
Maori woman performing defiant haka
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don’t forget xo Ukraine
empathy incarnate
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Ukraine is not, and will never be, XO Ukraine. It's a nasty...
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explain how XO Poland’s cousin triggers you so
empathy incarnate
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trum...
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that was like 6 bureaucrats. most of Ukraine is in lockstep ...
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decent man
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Ok so you dislike Ukraine because they are allegedly anti-se...
bloodacre
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There's no "allegedly" here -- a significant perce...
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They are not ARE friends. In all seriousness though, how ...
Upset Jew The Poa-star
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100% correct poast
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CR
Driving back in silence from retirement home
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decent man
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chilmata
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Why are you upthetting our Allieth?
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don't forget nihon, our future best friend
a den of proles
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EU is 500 million customers for US goods. How dense are you...
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"then they'll squabble among themselves" that's...
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Squabbling between Europeans leads to war, which leads to de...
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Pittance compared to crushing the neoliberal order
Maori woman performing defiant haka
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Squabbling between Europeans will lead to nationalism, which...
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I don't want it to be about money, but it clearly is. Europ...
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France, Germany and the UK are promoting Islam enormously vi...
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Remember what this sort of nationalism led to 100 years ago?...
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yes, the post-WW2 globalist order resulted in tremendous pea...
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And your solution is to simply abandon NATO and instead join...
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My solution is abandon NATO, work to destroy the EU and then...
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So you want to team up with historically antagonistic nation...
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we are "historically antagonistic" with Italy and ...
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Oh yeah Poland is the real enemy here https://twitter.com...
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I meant to say Russia and their proxies. Most people on xo ...
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It's a stretch to call the countries I listed historically a...
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How much business are you doing in Europe?
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Would be a boon for the US economy. Remember the glory days...
Insane right-wing gun nut
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There’s no guarantee that would happen again and that everyt...
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Finally, something we agree on.
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i am legitimately worried about turkey pulling nato countrie...
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how do you see that happening? turkey doesn't want war with...
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Why would you think this? Turkey has been working more clos...
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one of pat buchanan's big themes is that NATO has outlived a...
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XO Pat was a prophet
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The main justification for keeping our troop presence in Eur...
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that's just an inane excuse; you don't need a NATO-style sup...
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Let me get this straight. We need bases in places like Germ...
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"Why have any allies at all???" - xoxo trumpturds
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do we have non-NATO allies in the world? if so, NATO is not...
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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


UK intelligence services with the knowledge of teresa may conspired with hillary to create the fake trump dossier in an effort to overthrow and imprison him

germany is run by a communist who hates her own country, wants open borders and germany keeps electing her. germany wants to kill itself

france is pozzed under macron and is getting destroyed by muslims

time to let them fend for themselves

pulling out could also provide a jolt to nationalists within these countries who are our real allies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405442)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: As Done As Donny

Funny how I thought this would be a rare thread where OP was laughing at Trump’s idiocy. Lol xo2018

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36407119)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


no but I did caution trumpmos on upcoming elections this morning:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4022800&mc=28&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36407267)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: As Done As Donny

GOP is going to get historically crushed in this election, Trump woke up the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36408308)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405468)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

cr, and form a new body with E Euro hero states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405471)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


the goal should be the disintegration of the EU and then we can have trade treaties & relationships with individual countries such as XO hungary and XO poland and (potentially XO) italy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405475)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:47 PM
Author: decent man



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405651)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

in the meantime, as a taxpayer i wouldn't mind if the US carried some burden of helping defend poland and hungary from muslim or other EU-driven invasion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405687)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: empathy incarnate (Pederastrian)

don’t forget xo Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406179)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


Ukraine is not, and will never be, XO Ukraine. It's a nasty mix of corruption, Neo-Nazi proto-nationalism but mixed together and allied with the Western globalist order. It's disgusting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406183)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: empathy incarnate (Pederastrian)

explain how XO Poland’s cousin triggers you so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406502)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406516)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: empathy incarnate (Pederastrian)

that was like 6 bureaucrats. most of Ukraine is in lockstep with Poland

1mn Ukrainians now work there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406852)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: decent man



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36407027)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: bloodacre

Ok so you dislike Ukraine because they are allegedly anti-semitic and nationalist but you don't find these issues problematic in your support for poland and hungary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406901)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


There's no "allegedly" here -- a significant percentage of Ukranians are *literal* neo-Nazis. But they're neo-Nazis who support the current neoliberal globalist order. It's an odd thing.

You don't have that combo with Poland and Hungary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406969)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Upset Jew The Poa-star

They are not ARE friends.

In all seriousness though, how does NATO really benefit the United States in any real way? It's basically mainly been just a way to counter Soviet/Russian aggression with a threat of attack. That's it. However, for Europe it's allowed them to use America as the World Police while they let their militaries dwindle and fund massive social welfare programs. They're living the high on the hog at the behest of American generosity and in return won't even spend their AGREED TO 2 percent of GDP on defense.

Our new BFFs are clearly Hungary and Poland. The future of Europe is in the east. Western Europe is hopelessly cucked and mentally ill at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405483)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


100% correct poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405490)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Driving back in silence from retirement home

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405541)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:47 PM
Author: decent man



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405652)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: beckersted.

cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405675)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:52 PM
Author: chilmata (Big Dawg)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405698)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


Why are you upthetting our Allieth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405702)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: a den of proles

don't forget nihon, our future best friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405708)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: .,..,.,.,.,..,....,..,.....


EU is 500 million customers for US goods. How dense are you? They play by our rules, the rules we created for them after we rebuilt Europe from the ashes of Germany and Russia. If we actively try to get rid of NATO/EU then they'll squabble among themselves and not be COMPLIANT, PEACEFUL CONSUMERS. It's literally all about $$$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406156)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


"then they'll squabble among themselves"

that's the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406161)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: .,..,.,.,.,..,....,..,.....


Squabbling between Europeans leads to war, which leads to dead consumers who can't buy our shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406166)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

Pittance compared to crushing the neoliberal order

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406175)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


Squabbling between Europeans will lead to nationalism, which will lead to addressing the primary issue affecting western countries today: coaxing out a will to survive & keep one's heritage and group identity & keep out Muslims.

Stop Jewing up this thread, it's not all about money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406176)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: .,..,.,.,.,..,....,..,.....


I don't want it to be about money, but it clearly is. Europe is no longer admitting muslims. That door shut back in 2016.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406195)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


France, Germany and the UK are promoting Islam enormously via laws, immigration, policies affecting internal birth rates, in a million different ways, and discouraging Christianity and the native population. Don't be disingenuous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406220)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


Remember what this sort of nationalism led to 100 years ago? 80 years ago?

There’s a reason Europe has been so peaceful since WW2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406196)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


yes, the post-WW2 globalist order resulted in tremendous peace & prosperity for many years. but times have changed, the US has 21 trillion in debt with over a trillion dollar deficit, it's tearing itself to pieces internally and it simply cannot keep up that order anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406212)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


And your solution is to simply abandon NATO and instead join our arch nemesis who has been actively fighting against us through proxies for the last 70 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406434)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


My solution is abandon NATO, work to destroy the EU and then promote and work with the countries that have similar national survival ambitions, such as Hungary, Poland, and possibly Italy. There's no reason to treat the countries in the EU as a block.

I don't consider Russia an ally or an enemy -- mostly a competitor. And a weakening one given their awful demographic situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406445)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


So you want to team up with historically antagonistic nations that clearly have a significantly lower standard of living than their western counterparts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406642)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

we are "historically antagonistic" with Italy and Poland? as opposed to, say, Germany?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406660)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: decent man



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406665)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406685)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

Oh yeah Poland is the real enemy here

https://twitter.com/PolandDaily/status/1006067360082595840

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406867)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


I meant to say Russia and their proxies. Most people on xo support Putin over Obama/GWB/Bill Clinton/GHWB/Reagan and the rest of the “evil” neoliberals. Lol at considering them merely a “friendly competitor” when we’ve been in indirect conflict with them in Korea, Bietnam, Afghanistan and more recently Syria. They have no love for the US and are giddy over the far right and progressives challenging the establishment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36408602)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


It's a stretch to call the countries I listed historically antagonistic.

And yes, I don't think we should base our alliances off of the wealth of any particular country but rather whether such country advances the overriding objective -- the dismantling of the corrupt neoliberal order and a return to national sovereignty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406672)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Dr. Ford

How much business are you doing in Europe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406601)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut

Would be a boon for the US economy. Remember the glory days post WW2? Lack of competition would be better than losing a few customers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406718)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


There’s no guarantee that would happen again and that everything would go in America’s favor

Yes yes i know, 20 aircraft carriers, B-2 bombers, etc. don’t discount that both China and Russia have the ability to shut down critical infrastructure, take out sattelites, use hypersonic missiles to bypass our defenses and hit the mainland. China could potentially outproduce us. Even at home, we aren’t completely immune in a scenario where a great power conflict escalates beyond proxies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36408634)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: michael doodikoff



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406489)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Finally, something we agree on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406710)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405637)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: a den of proles

i am legitimately worried about turkey pulling nato countries into a really stupid war with russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405714)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


how do you see that happening? turkey doesn't want war with russia. erdogan wants to be a hardcore muslim dictator and reestablish the ottoman empire. he also wants to flood europe with many more muslim immigrants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405738)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,.,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.


Why would you think this? Turkey has been working more closely with Russia and Iranin the past year than America/Israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405754)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Upset Jew The Poa-star

Cr, Turkey is becoming more autocratic and hardline Islamic, they're canoodling with like-minded Russia and Iran now. No doubt Turkey and Russia had some beef in the past, but Erdogan seems much more pissed at Germany.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36405871)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: sharia lawyer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406130)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406585)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


one of pat buchanan's big themes is that NATO has outlived any rational purpose and has become a self-perpetuating enrichment machine for american defense contractors, mainly at the expense of the federal budget (since, as you note, western europeans themselves balk at defense spending). the idea that the US needs a hideously expensive NATO-style system to have close relations (trade or otherwise) is silly. china-europe trade has exploded over the past few decades, and obviously this is not the result of some kind of pan-eurasian defense pact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406740)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: .,.,,,.,,.,,,,,...,,,....,,..,,


cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406754)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: chilmata (Big Dawg)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406840)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

XO Pat was a prophet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406857)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406910)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


The main justification for keeping our troop presence in Europe has been projecting hard power into the Middle East since literally 1991. It's certainly reasonable to suggest we've been doing too much of that in the past 15 years, but anyone who talks about the actual security needs of western europe in connection with NATO is a retard (See e.g. Pat Buchanan).

P.S. LOL at how insanely butthurt Buchanan was when they interviewed him in the Trump doc on Netflix. The guy must walk around all day every day saying "fuck, it should've been me. I was 20 years too early. How the fuck was it not me!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36406936)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


that's just an inane excuse; you don't need a NATO-style superstructure to have base leasing agreements at rammstein or wherever else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36407172)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Let me get this straight. We need bases in places like Germany to project power to Iran, which is fuck knows where? That is retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36407296)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: solace and wallace

"Why have any allies at all???" - xoxo trumpturds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36408886)



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Date: July 11th, 2018 9:35 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


do we have non-NATO allies in the world? if so, NATO is not a necessary structure for alliances generally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4023079&forum_id=2#36408907)